Mike Barnicle

Watch this Morning Joe conversation between veteran columnist Mike Barnicle and president ABC News chief Washington correspondent Jonathan Karl about Karl’s new book “Betrayal: The Final Act of the Trump Show,” which offers an explosive look at the aftermath of the 2020 election and the events that followed former President Donald Trump’s White House departure. “When you’re sitting with Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago, after he has left the presidency, did it occur to you, ‘my God, this man was actually president of the United States?’” asks Barnicle. Hear Karl’s response here.